Posts Tagged ‘prayer model’

Persistent Prayer

December 12, 2014

Luke 11:5-8 persistent prayer – why did Jesus emphasize this?

Like Luke 11:5-8, Jesus also taught in Luke 18:1-8 that as we cry out to God for help and are persistent in looking to Him, He will answer.

  • We do not need to be persistent because God cannot hear
  • We do not need to be persistent because God is toying with us
  • We do not need to be persistent because God needs the attention
  • We do not need to be persistent to twist God’s arm

=> The purpose of persistent prayer is for us to get our minds in accord with His.

That’s why in Matthew’s account following the Lord’s Prayer, we find Jesus teaching to take no thought for our lives but to seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. (Mt 6:25-33)

Persistence may require more than one knock. Knocking once does not indicate perseverance, but “continued” knocking does. This requires faith that God will answer in His time – maybe that’s why it’s emphasized here!

Hebrews 11:6 AMPC
6 But without faith it is impossible to please and be satisfactory to Him. For whoever would come near to God must [necessarily] believe that God exists and that He is the rewarder of those who earnestly and diligently seek Him [out].

If we persistently seek after God, His way of doing and being, we will find Him. Searching for Him is intentional and requires focus. Seeking as if  seeking for something precious and valuable.

Matthew 13:44-46 AMPC
44 The kingdom of heaven is like something precious buried in a field, which a man found and hid again; then in his joy he goes and sells all he has and buys that field.
45 Again the kingdom of heaven is like a man who is a dealer in search of fine and precious pearls,
46 Who, on finding a single pearl of great price, went and sold all he had and bought it.

Seeking knowing that God is a good Father who gives good gifts to His children who ask(v13 below).


Luke 11:1-13 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Instruction about Prayer

1 It happened that while Jesus was praying in a certain place, after He had finished, one of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, teach us to pray just as John also taught his disciples.” 2 And He said to them, “When you pray, say:

‘Father, hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
‘Give us each day our daily bread.
‘And forgive us our sins,
For we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
And lead us not into temptation.’”
5 Then He said to them, “Suppose one of you has a friend, and goes to him at midnight and says to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me from a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and from inside he answers and says, ‘Do not bother me; the door has already been shut and my children and I are in bed; I cannot get up and give you anything.’ 8 I tell you, even though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will get up and give him as much as he needs.

9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened. 11 Now suppose one of you fathers is asked by his son for a fish; he will not give him a snake instead of a fish, will he? 12 Or if he is asked for an egg, he will not give him a scorpion, will he? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

The Legend of Honi the Circle Maker

August 31, 2013

There is a book called “The Circle Maker” by Mark Batterson, making it’s rounds in christian churches. The book is about a “new way” to pray based on the legend of Honi the circle maker. It claims that you will learn how to “dream big”, “pray hard” and “think long”.

Right off the bat in this video we see Mark drawing a clockwise circle in chalk around himself. Honi is also depicted drawing a circle in the sand with a staff.

A quick search on google for clockwise chalk circles reveals that this technique is called a magic circle or casting a circle used in ritual magic. It is used in Wicca. The technique may or may not be physical as stated here:
Magic Circle

Mark encourages people to “circle” promises in the bible, “circle” your family, “circle” your kids. We see these circles need not be physical — they can be “visualized”. It is very disturbing to see a model for christian prayer which uses a technique from witchcraft to obtain power or answered prayer. This technique is found nowhere in the bible.

This is the technique that Honi the circle maker used to get his prayer for rain answered. Mark calls him a legend.

The Legend of Honi the Circle Maker

The legend of Honi is found in the jewish book of legends — this is stated on the circle maker site:

Honi the circle maker stood firm inside his circle drawn in the sand until his prayer for rain was answered, this is the legend.

Honi as a Prayer Model?


My question is on what foundation was he standing? What foundation does this book encourage us to stand on? Is it the Rock – God’s word or Christ? If so, why are we not encouraged to pray in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ? Why does this circle making technique not appear in the bible, but is easily found in ritual magic? Could this be why scripture warns against giving heed to Jewish fables – “legends”?

Titus 1:13-14

Amplified Bible (AMP)
13 And this account of them is [really] true. Because it is [true], rebuke them sharply [deal sternly, even severely with them], so that they may be sound in the faith and free from error,
14 [And may show their soundness by] ceasing to give attention to Jewish myths and fables or to rules [laid down] by [mere] men who reject and turn their backs on the Truth.

Matthew 7:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
True and False Disciples

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Matthew 7:24-26
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
The Two Foundations

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. 26 Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.

1 Corinthians 10:4
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ.

Psalm 40:1-4
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
God Sustains His Servant.

For the choir director. A Psalm of David.

1 I waited patiently for the Lord;
And He inclined to me and heard my cry.
2 He brought me up out of the pit of destruction, out of the miry clay,
And He set my feet upon a rock making my footsteps firm.
3 He put a new song in my mouth, a song of praise to our God;
Many will see and fear
And will trust in the Lord.
4 How blessed is the man who has made the Lord his trust,
And has not turned to the proud, nor to those who lapse into falsehood.

John 16:24
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
24 Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.